Wednesday, December 29, 2010

What the State of Virginia Department of Taxation Obviously Doesn't Admit!

Apparently they have an inadequate tax reporting system. They harass businesses to report in their taxes by employee. Why? The state's system is not up to par where it can apparently report the information back out in an itemized format by individual.

Yea I sad it, I meant it, and I am here to represent it. But thanks to a flashing green light on incompetency I don't need to worry about any disputes in court unless I initiate it myself. I know and they probably know too I can't afford a long legal battle. They are endowed with the right to do what the heck they want without even having to take you to court to prove the validity of their claim. They screen all calls. Why? I could guess at a number of reasons. My strongest inclination is they want to make sure you get the same person each time so you get the same answers from that person. However, over the years the person I've been privy to speak with we don't do much talking. The only thing I'm sure we agree on is our total dislike each other. I asked her one year how can my ex claim my children when I provide 100% of their support before, during, and after the marriage and they are not even his biological children. She told me because he claimed them first. He used the SSNs from the joint returns we had filed previously. He knew I always waited until April 15th to file my taxes and he being retired filed as soon as he received his retirement statement. In retrospect probably cost the state more money because my income was a lot higher and him being in a lower income bracket it would have meant him owing taxes in a lower bracket qualifying for credits I wouldn't have qualified for.

Don't bother asking to be reassigned to someone else it doesn't happen. Even if it looks like it happens on paper in reality it doesn't. When I call an office I want to get an answer from a live person. I don't want to get a phone that just keeps taking me through voice prompts. Someone has to call you back. How frustrating. Send you my money? How about sending you a clue? No worries. Don't send it they'll take it no questions asked.

Sending them written correspondence to dispute a claim is like pouring water on a duck's back. They never get the forms, information you send them. Send a letter to the Governor back in 2004 if you want and he can tell them to resolve your dispute. Hmmmm! Throw paper airplanes you'll get more wind out of that. They have the power to take what they say you owe forget about what anybody says.

I've talked to peoaple recently whose bank accounts they have garnished because their check got loss in the mail room at the tax office. Of course I have no way to verify this claim and it is hearsay. But guess who I believe? I don't have to worry about whether or not claims of their incompetency would be admissible in court. They don't have to take anyone to court they are you, the court, and the jury. That's not by any means what I really think they are but for purposes of this post I will leave it at that.

Oh, to get back to my story, the lady mailed her check and her husband check the same day at the post office they got his and missed hers. Was I surprised when I heard this story? No.

Talking to the tax dept over the phone, well you may as well be talking to a stuffed animal, they can't hear either. It is criminal what some of these agencies get away with. I know few corporations who have bad systems as well but this takes the cake because to me all the money they receive is profit because it is just given to them by the taxpayers.

At least with companies you can write a complaint to the State Corporation Commission to get a resolution. Who do you write with concerns with them. Their apparent buddies, the Virginia Tax Payers' Rights Advocate. The guy appeared to be laughing at me through the phone. I ended up inquiring if he was an advocate for the state or the citizens? Needless to say, no help at all.

Some of these agencies and the people who work for these agencies get too big for their britches and when they start bursting holes in them they've gotten too comfortable for them to change them when they should have been thrown away for a new pair long ago. If this was offline I would be clowning their whole operation. But since this is online I am going to keep it above board.

It is a true shame they have been endowed to be almighty against the very citizens they are supposed to represent.

Does anything I've said here mean a thing. No. They're game is so dictatorial I have to say hail to the master, the Virginia Department of Taxation.

Let me go file this post before it is considered as non-filed and suffer penalty and interest for not having been received. Oh no not the issue of non-filing. Returns get eaten up by the tax monster. No record of how much your employer sent in on someone's behalf. We send out a lien with the full amount with penalty interest to exceed what the employer collected if is all W2 income. Don't worry, you'll pay, no other choice. You say you don't owe anything the state owes you $110.

Hypothetical

Employer sends in several thousand dollar over the tax year on your behalf
Your return is not received and you are now officially a non-filer
State comes after you for the same several thousands of dollars plus penalty and interest because you're a non-filer you don't even get credit for what the employer paid on your behalf but their system CANNOT EXTRACT THE INFORMATION.

The cost of you breathing air in Virginia has just gone up.

Remedy: possible future paper adjustment that you don't even have at your disposal to wipe your butt with. But read the earlier paragraphs the stuffed animal and all.

Isn't this double taxation? You paid the taxes via your employer and now you have to pay the same amount your employer contributed plus penalty and interest.

For illustration purposes only let's say someone made $20,000 during the year and the employer withheld $2,000 in state taxes and sent the money to the state. The same employee files a return and doesn't owe. Forgot about $10 refund check no big deal right. Gets a letter. Sends in copy of return originally filed and never received. Then later gets a letter of lien for $2,000. Happy? Might as well be. Next paycheck says the number of hours and gross pay calculated. Check amount says "VOID".

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